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If you had told us just four days ago that the Biden administration was funding undercover bio labs in Ukraine of all places, we would not have believed y'all. Yes, I don't think we're going to put that on Idiot box. No thanks.

Then, if you lot told us that not simply did the assistants fund these hush-hush bio labs in Ukraine, but that they and so failed to secure the deadly contents of those labs before the Russian invasion—an invasion they knew was coming, an invasion they helped encourage—if yous had told us that 4 days ago, nosotros would have dismissed you as a nut. It was just too preposterous. We will not desire annihilation to do with a story like that. In that location was no manner it could be truthful. It was too far out. In whatever case, we already knew for a fact that that story was simulated. How do we know that? Because we read U.s.a. Today, America's newspaper.

Within hours of the Russian invasion, U.s. Today published a rebuttal to all those crazies who were yammering on near underground Ukrainian bio labs. Here was the headline: "Fact check: False claim of United states of america biolabs in Ukraine tied to Russian disinformation campaign."

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The U.S. Department of State is seen on January 6, 2022 in Washington, DC. 

The U.Due south. Department of State is seen on Jan 6, 2022 in Washington, DC. (Mark Wilson/Getty Images)

So, if you wait carefully at the story—and nosotros did considering we were interested—y'all observe that this fact check was sourced to Ukrainian regime unnamed officials and and so Biden Land Department officials. These were not exactly objective sources on this subject, but still the story seemed definitive. It was totally emphatic. "Russia has teamed up with Mainland china to farther dilate the fake claim of U.S. labs in Ukraine."

OK. The states Today says it's Russian disinformation. Maybe it is. On to the next story, just the fact checks didn't end. That was weird. We kept seeing the same check again and again. It was almost like despite endless official clarification, some people refused to believe the Biden assistants. They preferred Russian propaganda instead and nosotros assume they must exist QAnon members. We assume that because Foreign Policy Magazine told us that. According to Foreign Policy, QAnon, any that is, was frantically disseminating "fake claims of U.S. bio warfare labs in Ukraine."

Those labs manifestly didn't be. Information technology was all but another prevarication from the Russians who lie for a living. Then the European Spousal relationship... weighed in, throwing its brownie behind the same merits. These are conspiracy theories, the Eu told us, they're lies spread by Putin. An EU spokesmen then reminded united states that, "the credibility of data provided by the Kremlin is in general, very doubtful and low." That was skilful to know.

"Russian disinformation has a track record of promoting manipulative narratives well-nigh biological weapons and alleged secret labs."

Yeah. We're not going to do a segment near hush-hush labs in Ukraine. Last thing we want to do on this show is traffic in Russian disinformation spread by QAnon, so we took a pass on that story. And that'southward where things stood until yesterday when we happened to tune in to a hearing of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

Toria Nuland was testifying so we were interested. Nuland was ane of the people who brought us the Iraq State of war, never apologized for that and kept getting promoted considering that's how DC works. Toria Nuland is at present Joe Biden's Nether Secretary of State in accuse of Ukraine and she knows a lot about Ukraine.

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Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs Victoria Nuland testifies before a Senate Foreign Relation Committee hearing on Ukraine on March 08, 2022 in Washington, DC.

Undersecretary of State for Political Diplomacy Victoria Nuland testifies before a Senate Foreign Relation Commission hearing on Ukraine on March 08, 2022 in Washington, DC. (Kevin Dietsch/Getty Images)

In 2022, Toria Nuland engineered a coup in Ukraine in the name of republic, of course. So, she is a highly informed source well-nigh Ukraine. And so, she was having this colloquy with Senator Marco Rubio of Florida during her testimony, and at one point, Rubio took a tack that we were not expecting at all. He asked Nuland if Ukraine had biological weapons.

We never imagined Ukraine would have biological weapons. Why would Ukraine accept bioweapons? So, it seemed similar a pretty foreign question, only information technology wasn't half as shocking as the reply he got. Here'due south what Toria Nuland said.

SEN. MARCO RUBIO: Does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons?

VICTORIA NULAND: Ukraine has a biological research facilities, which, In fact, we are now quite concerned Russian troops, Russian forces, may be seeking to gain control of. And then, we are working with the Ukrainians on how they tin can prevent whatever of those inquiry materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they approach.

Does Ukraine accept biological weapons? Ugh, Ukraine has biological research facilities. What? You lot mean secret bio labs similar the surreptitious bio labs that Ukraine definitely doesn't have? Ukraine has those? Yes, it does. And not only does Ukraine accept hole-and-corner bio labs, Toria Nuland said, whatsoever they're doing in those labs is so dangerous so scary that she is, "quite concerned" that the so-called research cloth inside those bio labs might fall into the hands of Russian forces.

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Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs Victoria Nuland testifies before a Senate Foreign Relation Committee hearing on Ukraine on March 08, 2022 in Washington, DC. 

Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs Victoria Nuland testifies before a Senate Foreign Relation Committee hearing on Ukraine on March 08, 2022 in Washington, DC. (Kevin Dietsch/Getty Images)

Try not to use profanity on the air to draw our reaction. Our jaws dropped, let's get out information technology in that location. Under oath in an open committee hearing, Toria Nuland just confirmed that the Russian disinformation they've been telling us for days is a lie and a conspiracy theory and crazy and immoral to believe is, in fact, totally and completely true.

Woah, you don't hear things like that every day in Washington. Talk near a showstopper and a dozen questions instantly jump to heed. What exactly are they doing in these hush-hush Ukrainian bio labs? Ukraine is the poorest land in Europe. It's hardly a hotbed of biomedical research. We're assuming these weren't pharmaceutical labs, probably not developing new Leukemia drugs. From your respond, Toria Nuland, we would assume considering you all but said information technology, that there's a armed services application to this enquiry, that they were working on bioweapons. Over again, your answer suggests that.

Why would we fund something like that in Ukraine, and why didn't yous secure the contents of these bio labs earlier the Russians arrived as yous knew they would? And then why did you get out of your way to lie to the American public about all of this? If the "research materials" in these labs were to escape somehow and y'all seem very concerned about that, what would be the result on Ukraine and then on the rest of the earth? How tin nosotros ready for the consequences of that, this matter that you're worried almost? Shouldn't we be preparing? Considering as information technology turns out, we've simply spent the last ii years living with the pathogen that began in some other foreign bio lab funded by the U.s.a. regime secretly.

So, this question is on our heed. It seems off-white. Now that's some of what we would have asked if we were U.S. Senators, which were non. Yes, at that place's a time limit. Fourth dimension limit be damned because this is kind of important, merely Rubio did non ask those questions. Instead, he inverse the field of study and told usa in one case over again that Vladimir Putin is bad.

SEN. MARCO RUBIO: If at that place is a biological or chemical weapon incident or... attack inside of Ukraine, is there any doubt in your mind that 100%, it would be the Russians that would exist backside it?

VICTORIA NULAND:  There is no doubt in my mind, senator, and it is classic Russian technique to blame on the other guy what they're planning to do themselves.

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Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., speaks during the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) at The Rosen Shingle Creek on Feb. 25, 2022, in Orlando, Florida. 

Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., speaks during the Bourgeois Political Activeness Conference (CPAC) at The Rosen Shingle Creek on Feb. 25, 2022, in Orlando, Florida. (Joe Raedle/Getty Images)

OK, but get a pen. Information technology's a classic Russian technique to blame on the other guy, what they are planning to do themselves. That'due south what Toria Nuland said. We almost laughed out loud. So, what you're saying, Toria Nuland, if, for instance, you lot were funding hole-and-corner bio labs in Ukraine, but wanted to hibernate that fact from the people who are paying for information technology, in whose name y'all were doing it, then you might lie virtually information technology by challenge the Russians were lying about it. In other words, you might mount a disinformation entrada by challenge the other guy was mounting a disinformation entrada. Is that what you're saying, Toria Nuland? It's pretty funny.

What'southward not funny is that this is all entirely real. We invited Marco Rubio on the prove tonight to tell united states of america what he knows almost these bio labs. He declined to come. That invitation remains open up. In the meantime, let's review what little we practise know about this. We're going to beginning with a spokesman for the Russian Defense Ministry building on Sunday. At present, nosotros would never do this. We never played anything like this on the show earlier because of grade, nosotros're Americans and when we want to know what'southward going on we enquire our own officials, the people we elect and whose salaries we pay, considering it's our country.

We don't go to foreign sources because we trust our own sources first. But when information technology turns out the people who represent us and run our government are lying to us and never apologize for information technology and doing horrific things in our names, so you have to open your mind a petty bit and at least appraise what other people are maxim. So, hither was the Russian merits.

IGOR KONASHENKOV: During the course of the special military machine performance, facts were uncovered of the cardinal regime, mopping up traces of military biological plan under evolution in Ukraine, financed by the U.S. Defense Ministry.

OK. Then, that apparently—nosotros hadn't seen that until this afternoon we started poking effectually—that may accept been the root of the conspiracy theories that the fact checks told us were Russian disinformation. Allow's quote it: "Military biological programs are under development in Ukraine, financed by the U.S. Defense Ministry building." That's the Russian claim.

Separately, a Russian Foreign Ministry building spokesman said the Ukrainians were working on mortiferous pathogens, including plague and anthrax. Is that true? Now, obviously, we would not take Russia's discussion for that ever, merely we don't have to have Russia's word for that. The U.S. Defense Department has a website that contains this media clip most the opening of a biological research facility in Ukraine in 2022.

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Chief of the Media Service and Information Directorate of the Russian Defence Ministry, Maj Gen Igor Konashenkov, gives a press briefing on the situation in the Idlib buffer zone in Syria. 

Chief of the Media Service and Information Directorate of the Russian Defence Ministry building, Maj Gen Igor Konashenkov, gives a press conference on the situation in the Idlib buffer zone in Syrian arab republic. (Vadim SavitskyTASS via Getty Images)

"U.Southward. Senator Dick Lugar applauded the opening of the Interim Fundamental Reference Laboratory in Odessa, Ukraine, this calendar week, announcing that information technology will be instrumental in researching unsafe pathogens used past bioterrorists. The level-three bio-safety lab will be used to study anthrax, tularemia and Q Fever, as well as other dangerous pathogens."

Oh, OK. Then the National Pulse dug upwards 2022 report from the U.S. National Academy of Sciences that too explained that the Odessa based laboratory "is responsible for the identification of peculiarly dangerous biological pathogens." So, what we're doing—this is non the first fourth dimension you've heard this story—we are funding the creation of deadly pathogens and so we can study them and prevent people from getting infected with them. Maybe? In that location are lots of examples of this. The U.S. Embassy in Ukraine has a handy web page explaining that American and Ukrainian scientists accept worked on a whole bunch of different experiments like this.

Some of the projects include work on African swine fever virus, hemorrhagic fever virus, and various respiratory viruses. The interesting affair, the telling affair, is that the U.S. Diplomatic mission'due south website likewise contains links to fact sheets near America'south support for biological research in Ukraine, simply all those links are at present expressionless. That's weird. It's our government. We pay for information technology. Once more, they're there in our name, in the name of American citizens, but nosotros can no longer read their web page. How does that work, exactly? They have no right to lie to united states.

The web page is archived, thankfully, and the fact sheets show Defense Department funding to laboratories in Ukraine. Then that looks like proof. It'due south non Russian disinformation. Information technology'south totally real. Sorry USA Today, America's newspaper, it'southward real. You lot tin look it up on the net if yous desire. In the face up of that bear witness, the Pentagon is still lying virtually and in fact, they're repeating the aforementioned unbelievably stupid and now thoroughly discredited lies the fact checkers accept told for weeks now. Here's the spokesman for the Pentagon, John Kirby, today.

JOHN KIRBY:  The Russian accusations are absurd. They're laughable and, y'all know, in the words of my Irish gaelic Cosmic grandpa, a agglomeration of malarkey. At that place's nothing to it. Information technology's archetype Russian propaganda and I wouldn't, if I were y'all,...I wouldn't give it a drop of ink worth...paying attention to.

REPORTER: Yeah, merely can you explain to the states what...has there been whatsoever relationship between the...?

JOHN KIRBY:  We are non, not, developing biological or chemic weapons inside Ukraine. Information technology'south non happening.

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If I were y'all, I wouldn't devote a drop of ink to it. First of all, you didn't get to make that decision, Mr. Bureaucrat. Nosotros have a complimentary printing in this country. You lot don't become to determine, merely you lot'll discover at the end of that, Kirby refuses to answer the question. Has at that place been any relationship between the U.S. Pentagon and a bioweapons facility in Ukraine and if then, what is that relationship? That'southward Russian disinformation! What's the answer? We're not developing WMD in Ukraine right at present! OK, got information technology, simply why are nosotros funding this and what exactly are we funding?

We reached out to the Land Department separately and they provided us with this very carefully worded statement: "The U.S. Section of Defense does non own or operate biological laboratories in Ukraine." Not that anyone said they did. Continuing the quote, "Undersecretary Nuland was referring to Ukrainian diagnostic and biodefense laboratories during her testimony, which are not biological weapons facilities." What'southward the difference exactly? Continuing the quote, "These institutions counter biological threats throughout the state."

So that means zip. You could draw our nuclear stockpile correctly as defensive. Our nuclear weapons are not designed to preemptively kill anybody. They're designed to prevent other people from killing us, but they're still nuclear weapons. So, when yous stop lying and telling the states what's going on hither and why don't you lot more than specifically tell us why you didn't secure these materials? And then, yes, nosotros're funding hugger-mugger bio labs in Ukraine, merely they are diagnostic and biodefense laboratories that counter biological threats.

OK, if these are purely defensive labs, why was Toria Nuland so concerned that Russians would get ahold of the materials from these facilities? Other world powers take come up to the obvious conclusion. Once more, we detest to practise this, but nether these circumstances, we asked our own spokespeople, they lied. We're going to the Foreign Ministry of People's republic of china, a country nosotros despise. Hither'southward what they said today. They're calling on weapons inspectors to have a look at these facilities in Ukraine right abroad.

ZHAO LIJIAN: Over the by two decades, the U.s. has been blocking the establishment of a verification regime to the Biological Weapons Convention and refused to accept the inspection of biological facilities inside and outside its borders. The move has further aggravated the concern of the international community. Nosotros, over again, urge the U.S. to provide full description of its bio militarization activities inside and outside its borders and have multilateral verification.

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Oh, they're putting Russian and Chinese propaganda on the screen! Yeah, we did. We besides put U.S. government propaganda on the screen and the difference is we expect to be lied to by foreign governments. We're not globalists. We believe in one country. Information technology's this country, the United States. We do non wait to be lied to by our government and nosotros won't accept it. But let's go to the substance of what the Chinese government just said. We never agree with the Chinese authorities on anything, but in this case, they brand a fair bespeak. Nosotros now know that unsafe biological agents, whether you call them weapons or not is completely irrelevant because they can be used as weapons. Is a gun a weapon? Non when you're quail hunting. When y'all're in a gunfight, it is. Information technology's a ridiculous semantic debate.

Dangerous biological agents remain, thanks to the Biden administration, unsecured in a chaotic war zone. At some point we demand to know how that happened, who made those decisions. Nosotros have a right to know and permit's hope someone in Congress, probably not Marco Rubio, simply someone else, will go to the bottom of it, simply in the meantime, nosotros pray that somewhere, in the United states authorities, there equally an developed who cares enough to get this situation under control immediately.

This article is adapted from Tucker Carlson'due south opening commentary on the March 9, 2022 edition of "Tucker Carlson Tonight."